Wasanelder Once

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  Finding the value of God; Isn't it better to believe in a deity?

  by Caupon in

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  the question as to what believing in this entity called god entails is a fairly important question that needs to be answered first.

  to me, the key difference between a universe in which god exists versus one where god doesn't lies in the idea of teleology.

  in my view, a universe with god entails some sort of process towards an end, an end which can be characterized with words such as bliss and unity and others.

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  Wasanelder Once

  AMEN TTDTT!
  
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  It's Too Late to Return to Jehovah!

  by naazira in

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  2. friends

  yes friends it is too late for most of you to return to jehovah's org.

  based on the new garlic bread parable in this month's broadcast with the illustration using loaves of bread.

  it is obvious that the doors of the arc has been closed shut by jehovah's hand for some of us.. according to the new parable that can be found on jw tv.

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  I'm surprised they didn't say that those who sin against the HS are, in fact, toast.
  
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  What is more important life or justice?

  by Fisherman in

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  the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.

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  Seldom is there justice, more often life seems unstoppable even without justice. More important? A law degree.
  
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  Quality of newer membership

  by Lostandfound in

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  2. experiences

  on a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.

  i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.

  the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.

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  Wasanelder Once

  From the time I was a kid the literature was very psuedo-intellectual with tomes like "Babylon the Great Has Fallen" and "The Finished Mystery" both in the early 60's. When the Truth book appeared I was 11 years old and it seemed as if it was just condensed, not simple. The reality is that the mass conversion tactic of the "Truth" book became a downward spiral. It has become dumber and dumber to the point where the brochures are pamphlets and the magazines are tracts. There is no longer any intellectual appeal so the recruits are pretty much simpletons without an income seeking to belong to the "happiest people on earth". The odd intellect is probably attracted by a desire for power.
  
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  God is the result of frustration with dying and all other unknowns. Gotta hang it on something. Also it is fueled by crackpots, and grannies from the U.S. south.

  
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #14 - Joey Goes to Oz

  by cofty in

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  australia is home to 223 species of marsupial.. lacking a womb our mammalian cousins give birth to their young at a very early stage of development and then nurse them to maturity.

  female marsupials also have 3 vaginas but that is another thread.. the earliest fossils of marsupials are not to be found in australia however but in north america 80 million years ago.

  their journey can be followed south all the way to the tip of south america 40 million years ago and then they suddenly turn up in australia 30 million years ago.. so where were joey's ancestors during the missing 10 million years and how did they manage to get to australia?.

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  n't "Tie me Kangaroo Down Sport". It was only a hop skip and a hop from Ararat to Brisbane! Silly Evo. (Sarcasm just doesn't translate.)

  
  

  oops, picture in wrong thread, can't delete sorry
  
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  Just got an apology from an exJW

  by Village Idiot in

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  so i'm back from the store walking to my apartment, over a hundred units in the complex - all jws and ex-jws - and i see someone talking to an ex-jw neighbor of mine.

  she turns around and says "now there's some else i have to apologize to".. she identified herself as an old neighbor who used to play as a jw child right by my place.

  she had told me how she was raised to consider me and all the ex-jws in the apartment complex as evil and thought she had to apologize for that.. made my day.

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  Wasanelder Once

  It sounds like a crazy place to live!
  
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  Babylonians Discovered Calculus

  by cofty in

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  2. current

  it had been assumed that rudimentary calculus was developed in europe in the 14th century but now it turns out that the babylonians worked it out more than 2000 years ago.. researchers have deciphered a detail on a cuneiform tablet held at the british museum and revealed that it describes the movement of jupiter.. babylonians believed that jupiter's position was integral to predicting the weather, the price of goods, and the fluctuating river levels throughout the year.. "the now-decoded 'text a' describes a procedure for calculating jupiter’s displacement across the ecliptic plane.. by tracking jupiter’s speed as a function of time and determining the area under a time-velocity curve.".

  read more here....

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  I read that as well. It sort of takes away the notion of people getting more intelligent over the centuries. It was there all along. Of course as we move farther from "perfection" we get dumber. Good ol' Watchtower bullshit.
  
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  Hey ya'll! My first post. Please help. In need of advice/comfort.

  by Stepford Wife in

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  2. friends

  hey ya'll!

  i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.

  actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.

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  Wasanelder Once

  SW, two elders come first to "investigate". This will be your shepherding call. They will feel you out to see if what your husband has privately told them is true. I know he said he wouldn't but remember its your everlasting salvation at stake and he loves you. Of course you know him so this may be wrong on my part. Either way, those two elders can serve as witnesses in a JC against you so play the part well and let it fall. If he is removed as an elder it may be the injustice that will open his eyes, especially if you remain a good and loving companion no matter what they say.
  
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  Is this a true statement? Elders that are DF will be reinstated much quicker than the average publisher.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  back in the early 70's there was a brother, well known in the circuit did the no no with.

  a few of the young sisters in the congregation.

  he was df and the word, he would never be.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I know of one CO who was once DF'd, long before he was appointed CO. Haven't met any elders who were out and in though. It happens I am sure.